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	<title>Comments for LBO News from Doug Henwood</title>
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		<title>Comment on Yakking in Geneva&#8230; by robert r locke</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/03/25/yakking-in-geneva/#comment-5149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[robert r locke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 05:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, is&#039;s easy.  If morality is a personal matter, then the answer to greed is for each individual manager nor to be greedy.  The discussion stops there.  If the system of investor capitalism promotes individual greed then the system needs to be reformed or changed.  We&#039;ll always have greedy people, its human nature, but why let them arrange a system of investor capitalism that gives free reign to their propensities. Read more in http://www.nephis.org.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, is&#8217;s easy.  If morality is a personal matter, then the answer to greed is for each individual manager nor to be greedy.  The discussion stops there.  If the system of investor capitalism promotes individual greed then the system needs to be reformed or changed.  We&#8217;ll always have greedy people, its human nature, but why let them arrange a system of investor capitalism that gives free reign to their propensities. Read more in <a href="http://www.nephis.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.nephis.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Employment laggard: the public sector by jfbrown</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/26/employment-laggard-the-public-sector/#comment-5141</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jfbrown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 15:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this partly because more states now have balanced budget requirements?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this partly because more states now have balanced budget requirements?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fresh audio product by T. Kiefer</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/30/fresh-audio-product-3/#comment-5137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T. Kiefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 14:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve only listened podcast, but Livingston&#039;s thesis seems to be troubling on a couple of levels.

  First, who are the &quot;savers&quot; that need to become more profligate and learn to love satisfying their desires?  Other than the American petit bourgeoisie/shopkeepers, I can&#039;t think of anyone here (our &#039;ruling&#039; elite is profligate to the point of disgust --see any issue of &#039;Forbes Life&#039;--and everyone else hasn&#039;t been saving money for years) --is he thinking of the non-Protestant Chinese?  If he means that Americans shouldn&#039;t be so schizophrenic about their consumption (DO IT, but then feel guilty), that&#039;s a different point.

Second, relatedly, as so often happens, he steps into the realm of philosophy without realizing the complexity of the issues involved over hedonism and its variants: do I satisfy a pleasure now, damn the later pains (e.g., his hamburger parable versus e.g. heart disease later--or should the Chinese spend spend spend and they&#039;ll deal with abject poverty in retirement later)?  Do other people and their desires matter (a desire for a cheap iPhone versus the desire of the worker for a better wage)?  What if satisfying my desire harms others?  Do the desires of the whole outweigh the desires of the few (e.g. good roads and schools versus the desire for lesser taxes)?  What about higher pleasures (reading a good book) versus lower (e.g., a one-night stand)? There are so much more.

Finally, Mandeville (and Keynes too I believe) were more interested in the workers and peasants sharing in the high culture of the bourgeoisie (good art, poetry, opera, nice furniture and clothing, good food, leisure) than being able to satisfy their whim for a good burger or a new smartphone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only listened podcast, but Livingston&#8217;s thesis seems to be troubling on a couple of levels.</p>
<p>  First, who are the &#8220;savers&#8221; that need to become more profligate and learn to love satisfying their desires?  Other than the American petit bourgeoisie/shopkeepers, I can&#8217;t think of anyone here (our &#8216;ruling&#8217; elite is profligate to the point of disgust &#8211;see any issue of &#8216;Forbes Life&#8217;&#8211;and everyone else hasn&#8217;t been saving money for years) &#8211;is he thinking of the non-Protestant Chinese?  If he means that Americans shouldn&#8217;t be so schizophrenic about their consumption (DO IT, but then feel guilty), that&#8217;s a different point.</p>
<p>Second, relatedly, as so often happens, he steps into the realm of philosophy without realizing the complexity of the issues involved over hedonism and its variants: do I satisfy a pleasure now, damn the later pains (e.g., his hamburger parable versus e.g. heart disease later&#8211;or should the Chinese spend spend spend and they&#8217;ll deal with abject poverty in retirement later)?  Do other people and their desires matter (a desire for a cheap iPhone versus the desire of the worker for a better wage)?  What if satisfying my desire harms others?  Do the desires of the whole outweigh the desires of the few (e.g. good roads and schools versus the desire for lesser taxes)?  What about higher pleasures (reading a good book) versus lower (e.g., a one-night stand)? There are so much more.</p>
<p>Finally, Mandeville (and Keynes too I believe) were more interested in the workers and peasants sharing in the high culture of the bourgeoisie (good art, poetry, opera, nice furniture and clothing, good food, leisure) than being able to satisfy their whim for a good burger or a new smartphone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving money (revisited) by Why BNotes are incredibly stupid &#38; fucked up &#171; Baltimore Feminist Reading Group</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2011/11/08/moving-money-revisited/#comment-5119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why BNotes are incredibly stupid &#38; fucked up &#171; Baltimore Feminist Reading Group]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Blaming banks. This is in some ways a reiteration of the pro-capitalism point, but because this response to the crisis has proven so popular around the white &#8220;progressives&#8221; faction of Baltimore leftism, it merits a specific response. The BNote takes issue with the fact that currencies are not backed by the federal reserve. In this criticism, they are aligned with those that treat the fall of Bretton-Woods and the unhinging of dollars from the gold standard as a death knell for economic stability. In the same vein, these types usually complain about the growth of deregulated finance as the full cause of the economic crisis. Like proponents of the &#8220;slow money&#8221; movement, these anti-bank people assume the causes of crises are rooted in the velocity and fiat character of money, in addition to the &#8220;greed&#8221; and unproductiveness of financiers. They thus try to reconnect money to place &#8212; to local businesses or agricultural cycles &#8212; in order to solve the problem of money moving too fast or going too far, or being an insecure symbol inconvertible to real wealth. In short, finance is a dangerous parasite on and parody of the &#8220;real economy&#8221;; we need to get back to producing things. Problem is, banks and finance are a necessary component of the capitalist economy. Capital necessitates an international credit system precisely because it cannot equalize profit rates, transfer capitals, or initiate new lines of accumulation without it. Because finance is an integral (although certainly contradictory) part of capitalist accumulation, it makes no sense to try to claim it and localize it &#8212; unless you love capitalism. Doug Henwood has made a compelling case in this respect against the Huffington Posts&#8217; pet project of moving money into credit unions. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blaming banks. This is in some ways a reiteration of the pro-capitalism point, but because this response to the crisis has proven so popular around the white &#8220;progressives&#8221; faction of Baltimore leftism, it merits a specific response. The BNote takes issue with the fact that currencies are not backed by the federal reserve. In this criticism, they are aligned with those that treat the fall of Bretton-Woods and the unhinging of dollars from the gold standard as a death knell for economic stability. In the same vein, these types usually complain about the growth of deregulated finance as the full cause of the economic crisis. Like proponents of the &#8220;slow money&#8221; movement, these anti-bank people assume the causes of crises are rooted in the velocity and fiat character of money, in addition to the &#8220;greed&#8221; and unproductiveness of financiers. They thus try to reconnect money to place &#8212; to local businesses or agricultural cycles &#8212; in order to solve the problem of money moving too fast or going too far, or being an insecure symbol inconvertible to real wealth. In short, finance is a dangerous parasite on and parody of the &#8220;real economy&#8221;; we need to get back to producing things. Problem is, banks and finance are a necessary component of the capitalist economy. Capital necessitates an international credit system precisely because it cannot equalize profit rates, transfer capitals, or initiate new lines of accumulation without it. Because finance is an integral (although certainly contradictory) part of capitalist accumulation, it makes no sense to try to claim it and localize it &#8212; unless you love capitalism. Doug Henwood has made a compelling case in this respect against the Huffington Posts&#8217; pet project of moving money into credit unions. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obama’s stock market: pretty good (if you care about that sort of thing) by Doug Henwood</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/23/obamas-stock-market-pretty-good-if-you-care-about-that-sort-of-thing/#comment-5118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you read the piece? &quot;Adjusting for inflation has little effect on the rankings.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read the piece? &#8220;Adjusting for inflation has little effect on the rankings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on On not staging a mock conversion to the right by ambzone</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/02/on-not-staging-a-mock-conversion-to-the-right/#comment-5117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ambzone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed about peace. No war but class war, and this one will not end with a whimper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed about peace. No war but class war, and this one will not end with a whimper.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obama’s stock market: pretty good (if you care about that sort of thing) by John Adams</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/23/obamas-stock-market-pretty-good-if-you-care-about-that-sort-of-thing/#comment-5116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only idiots who would vote for Obama are stupid enough to interpret this as a positive issue. Besides, wouldn&#039;t this be &quot;Bush&#039;s fault&quot; if in fact it were a positive thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only idiots who would vote for Obama are stupid enough to interpret this as a positive issue. Besides, wouldn&#8217;t this be &#8220;Bush&#8217;s fault&#8221; if in fact it were a positive thing?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On not staging a mock conversion to the right by Mike B)</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/02/on-not-staging-a-mock-conversion-to-the-right/#comment-5114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike B)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant, &#039;they&#039;re&#039; not &#039;their&#039;...sheesh...that&#039;ll teach me to sip my coffee before I type.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant, &#8216;they&#8217;re&#8217; not &#8216;their&#8217;&#8230;sheesh&#8230;that&#8217;ll teach me to sip my coffee before I type.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On not staging a mock conversion to the right by Mike B)</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/02/on-not-staging-a-mock-conversion-to-the-right/#comment-5113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike B)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, dumb Chomsky.  He thinks because human animals have the ability to communicate with language, write books, plan and construct bridges and change their social relations as they make their own history, that their somehow rational.  He contradicts himself all the time when he criticises irrational acts by human beings.  Can&#039;t he see?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, dumb Chomsky.  He thinks because human animals have the ability to communicate with language, write books, plan and construct bridges and change their social relations as they make their own history, that their somehow rational.  He contradicts himself all the time when he criticises irrational acts by human beings.  Can&#8217;t he see?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On not staging a mock conversion to the right by Ragweed</title>
		<link>http://lbo-news.com/2012/04/02/on-not-staging-a-mock-conversion-to-the-right/#comment-5112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragweed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with Chomsky is not that he thinks people are innately good, but that he thinks they are innately rational.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Chomsky is not that he thinks people are innately good, but that he thinks they are innately rational.</p>
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