This interview was first broadcast on Doug Henwood’s show, Behind the News, on KPFA, Berkeley, on September 3, 2026, and circulated to the podcast universe shortly after. The full archive of BtN, going back to 2002, can be found here. Its Apple Podcasts page is here. Doug Henwood Next, cops and jails. More precisely how to get rid of them and what a postcarceral future might look like. Here to imagine that for us is Alex Vitale. Alex is a professor of sociology and coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project… Read More